Data-Dog:
They are nutters.
Pretty much, sad we 'apostates' no more about JW beliefs doctrines and how they stand by todays terms than faithful dubs at every sunday meeting.
the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.
if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?
they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.
Data-Dog:
They are nutters.
Pretty much, sad we 'apostates' no more about JW beliefs doctrines and how they stand by todays terms than faithful dubs at every sunday meeting.
http://jehovahstrumpet.com.
i read the cat baptisim article and i doubled over laughing.
one time when i was a kid i asked why my kitty couldn't go to the kh with us and my mom told me that animals were perfect and didn't need to go to the kh.. .
Response to Cedar's comment on we have been accused of satire:
Dear Sir! I saw that you mentioned our faithful news magazine on your apostate site! Don’t try to deny it. The beard in your avatar says it all. And what is this ‘tongue in cheek’ you are referring to? Is that in reference to some kind of perverted, apostate sexual practice? We will have none of that here. Dear readers, we here at Jehovah’s Trumpet are so sorry to have exposed you to this. This ‘Mr. John Cedars’ is an apostate and his site, jwsurvey.org should be avoided at all costs. To help protect you, I have posted the link in the links page so that you can add it to your internet restrictions.
i was listening to arnie gundersun on fairewinds.org.
http://fairewinds.org/media/radio/olympic-insanity-gundersen-charge-fukushima.
explaining the situation at fukushima and how the .
Its just ancient prophecy coming to fruition!
these days my jw past stay safely under wraps from nearly everyone.. i dont dig it up- and i see no need to talk about it with anyone.. sometimes i feel as if my past is a large and terrible secret, and i will be found out eventually.
people can sense i am different.
i never talk about my family.. i guess people chalk it up to being a private person or let me be a mystery.. however, there is one thing that i feel completely reveals me as having been raised a jehovahs witness:.
You actually READ the WT mag/drivel.
the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.
the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!
then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!
I was floored. What has been in Brooklyn New York for the past 100 years?
So Warwick needs to be finished or the Apocalypes will be indefinately postponed, huh?
Once again you people fail to understand the spiritual light of reason from the WT$ perspective.
Clearly Warwick represents a combination of messiah/shilo who we know must come. Jesus directly warned the GB that when they see the disgusting thing walking down the hall of 124 to the bathroom that they must get out. For years they ASSumed that this was a figurative getting out but evidently they have now been told to ACTUALLY get out of babylon the great which in an around the bout way is here also similar to jeruselem.
Just as jesus said when jeruselem is surrounded by the romans to flee to the mountains they must do the same. Key is unlike those 1st century Xtians they know it will take awhile (hell we already looking at a solid century.)
So since they have to flee from babylon the great/jeruselem and they know that its still gon be a long freaking time till the end why not kill two birds with one stone while chilling next to beautiful lake front property!!!
the word out of bethel is of a mass purge the likes of the 1980's.. there's also possible public reproofs handed out for irregular ones.. .
the scriptures they are using to support this:.
the very ones keeping away from you will perish.
Like others said good rumor.
But to go ahead and speculate anyway...if they were to do this I wonder how it will stir the R&F?
I know for the most part they will ignore it as they do every major back-track and rule/dogma change that the WT$ has implemented. But in theory there would have to be a few who say: Dang thats kinda messed up to DF someone for not attending meetings.
i know there are some here that are going through some tough times.
some of you do not believe in god.
some are not sure.. i was told recently by a friend to pray to god for help and he would comfort me.. my first impulse is to pray.
A few years back I had a sinus infection that got so bad fluid had backed up behind my left eye. After a day and half they were ready to do surgery. It was a trying day cause they said it would be late morning than afternoon, finally they took me down for surgery at 5:30 pm. Now mind you I had not eaten all day nor the night before.
Once in the or prep I waited in there for another 2 hrs. I thought to myself while waiting 'now is the time someone with faith would pray.' But I am not a hypocrite nor would I pretend in a time of need to exercise faith in that which I dont believe.
THAN I started to think...I thought abour how the SIth deal with pain and suffering. The Sith unlike the jedi do not use healing trances or techniques. The sith use pain and suffering to make them stronger in the force. A womb or blow to the Sith is turned around and used as a weopon.
While mediatating on these things I felt a calm come over me. Yes, I shyt you not, thinking about my Sith persona and the ways that the sith use the force brought me more comfort than any prayer I ever made to Jehovah.
Its not who or what you pray to its the strength of YOUR OWN THOUGHTS AND CONVICTIONS that drives it! Even tho I am an athiest I have a degree of PERSONAL spirituality with-in me. I reconize that salvation lies with-in and that I can choose the nature and form of that salvation.
simon,.
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the last bit is pretty creppy.
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